have i been ripped off? please helppppp

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have i been ripped off? please helppppp

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Hi guys, i am new to the forum here, i've bought a 97 JDM type r, but somehow the power doesn't seems it's a type r cos i have driven my friend's JDM 98 spec type R (which i've been told for a dc2 type r JDM), i have taken a pic with the number on the engine. can someone please tell me it's a b18 type r or just a integra Sir engine....
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Any other images? Possibly one of the block? Transmission stamp? The only one I see is the head in your original image.
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Yup, just head stamp.

IIRC, the left most is the year, 96. So it "could" be a 96 spec JDM ITR.
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sorry im too green to here..... where's exactly is the transmission stamp?
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If you look at the transmission, there is a stamp on it in ink, not a metal stamp. That will let us know what trans is in it.

Also, on the head you should see markings that say PR3-x where X can be 1, 2, 3, or 4.
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transmission stamp...i attached a random pic of another type R engine bay, could you please indicate where about i could see that stamp in ink?
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On the left, under those blue Radiator hoses is where the stamp should be.
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It wont have a metal tag just ink and it wears off often.

I would say try and post up better pics of the motor and stampings on the head and of the intake mani.
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I am so new to here and you guys have already been so nice to me with the promptly replies. :wink: respect!
Alright, ive tried my best to try to spot the transmission stamp but the engine bay is just not quite tidy and clean....but ive taken plenty more picture i hope it could help...
thanks a lot guys!
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I would tend to say it's genuine.

It's a PR3-x head (but this can be a B16 head)

Has the correct Intake Manifold (again, B16 looks similar)

I can't tell if there is green paint on the head near the Vtec solenoid/Dizzy.

Last thing would be specifics on the trans, and it's stamp. Did the car come with that motor in it, or was this a swap your puchased? If swap, was trans included or separate?
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The engine came with the car.
So there's chance that it is a b16 160bhp rather than a 200bhp b18c ?! :shock:
Any other way to tell? (apart from taking it to a rolling road lol). could it be tell by taking off the red head cover?
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In this picture:

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There is a stamp on the block to the left of the header but right of the trans. It should have a metal stamp on it. What does it say?
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where i circle in blue is where the engine code is!!! also clean your engine bay, it super dirty..haha:P
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its gonna say B18C... im pretty sure from a couple of those pics you can see its a tall block, not a shorter deck block like a B16A...

i would suggest doing a compression/leakdown test if performance is lacking...
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Isnt that a 98 spec header? OP says its a 96 spec itr. So maybe not original motor that came with the car.
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If... B18c AND that IM, then ITR motor.

GS-R doesn't have that intake on it. And you can't bolt an ITR mani onto a GSR head.
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header is an easy part to swap. and very common to swap to a 98+ header...

also note that amount of dirt/grime all over that car. id bet that motor has been there for a while (if ever). nothing big really looks cleaner like its been swapped with different parts (i know i clean my shit before i put it on, at least a little).


if its lacking power i would start by doing a compression test, checking the plugs/cap/rotor and making sure they are still in good working order.
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alright guys! it's quite a heavy rain outthere now so i will have to go and check the engine code later.
and fullybuilt2.0, you are quite right , it's just superrr dirty, how can i get rid of the grime and dirt? steamclean i've been told?
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Simple Green does wonders as well.
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bingo! it says B18C for the upper row and the number on the buttom row, so it's a ITR?
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Post by BannisteR »

Heads can be swapped as well, but it looks to be like the original based on all the dirt and grime. Do JDM transmissions have the sticker with a bar code stating what trans it is as well, underneath the rad hoses close to where the clutch line is?
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Yes, the JDM transmissions will also have an ink stamp on them. It's not the same as the USD JH4 LSD though. I think it's N3E or something like that.
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i have a 97 JDM ITR trans. and i have to stare at it for like 2 mins to see the faint ink stamp that was once there... same goes for the green ink thing. cars get old and get washed. that shit just goes away.
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I have been looking for it all over the place no no luck, maybe the paint has faded out ? or covered by the dirt? or i just over looked and missed it. if it's the case could someone indicate it from the photo i've taken around that area please :). thanks a lot guys!!!
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in your second photo look between the two blue hoses you can just make out the black ink where it says "LSD" That's the stamp and the other 3 letter stamp should be right there with it.
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