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have i been ripped off? please helppppp
Posted: September 8th, 2010, 9:15 am
by kcem
Hi guys, i am new to the forum here, i've bought a 97 JDM type r, but somehow the power doesn't seems it's a type r cos i have driven my friend's JDM 98 spec type R (which i've been told for a dc2 type r JDM), i have taken a pic with the number on the engine. can someone please tell me it's a b18 type r or just a integra Sir engine....
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Posted: September 8th, 2010, 11:49 am
by cheezthis
Any other images? Possibly one of the block? Transmission stamp? The only one I see is the head in your original image.
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Posted: September 8th, 2010, 12:27 pm
by Dave_B
Yup, just head stamp.
IIRC, the left most is the year, 96. So it "could" be a 96 spec JDM ITR.
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Posted: September 8th, 2010, 12:33 pm
by kcem
sorry im too green to here..... where's exactly is the transmission stamp?
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Posted: September 8th, 2010, 12:34 pm
by Dave_B
If you look at the transmission, there is a stamp on it in ink, not a metal stamp. That will let us know what trans is in it.
Also, on the head you should see markings that say PR3-x where X can be 1, 2, 3, or 4.
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Posted: September 8th, 2010, 12:52 pm
by kcem
transmission stamp...i attached a random pic of another type R engine bay, could you please indicate where about i could see that stamp in ink?
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Posted: September 8th, 2010, 5:52 pm
by Dave_B
On the left, under those blue Radiator hoses is where the stamp should be.
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Posted: September 9th, 2010, 1:08 am
by Little_Nolan
It wont have a metal tag just ink and it wears off often.
I would say try and post up better pics of the motor and stampings on the head and of the intake mani.
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Posted: September 9th, 2010, 9:17 am
by kcem
I am so new to here and you guys have already been so nice to me with the promptly replies.

respect!
Alright, ive tried my best to try to spot the transmission stamp but the engine bay is just not quite tidy and clean....but ive taken plenty more picture i hope it could help...
thanks a lot guys!
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Posted: September 9th, 2010, 9:35 am
by Dave_B
I would tend to say it's genuine.
It's a PR3-x head (but this can be a B16 head)
Has the correct Intake Manifold (again, B16 looks similar)
I can't tell if there is green paint on the head near the Vtec solenoid/Dizzy.
Last thing would be specifics on the trans, and it's stamp. Did the car come with that motor in it, or was this a swap your puchased? If swap, was trans included or separate?
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Posted: September 9th, 2010, 9:54 am
by kcem
The engine came with the car.
So there's chance that it is a b16 160bhp rather than a 200bhp b18c ?!
Any other way to tell? (apart from taking it to a rolling road lol). could it be tell by taking off the red head cover?
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Posted: September 9th, 2010, 10:25 am
by Dave_B
In this picture:
There is a stamp on the block to the left of the header but right of the trans. It should have a metal stamp on it. What does it say?
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Posted: September 9th, 2010, 3:37 pm
by fullybuilt2.0
where i circle in blue is where the engine code is!!! also clean your engine bay, it super dirty..haha:P
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Posted: September 9th, 2010, 4:39 pm
by turbohf
its gonna say B18C... im pretty sure from a couple of those pics you can see its a tall block, not a shorter deck block like a B16A...
i would suggest doing a compression/leakdown test if performance is lacking...
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Posted: September 9th, 2010, 4:52 pm
by itr #1334
Isnt that a 98 spec header? OP says its a 96 spec itr. So maybe not original motor that came with the car.
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Posted: September 9th, 2010, 5:36 pm
by Dave_B
If... B18c AND that IM, then ITR motor.
GS-R doesn't have that intake on it. And you can't bolt an ITR mani onto a GSR head.
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Posted: September 9th, 2010, 10:37 pm
by turbohf
header is an easy part to swap. and very common to swap to a 98+ header...
also note that amount of dirt/grime all over that car. id bet that motor has been there for a while (if ever). nothing big really looks cleaner like its been swapped with different parts (i know i clean my shit before i put it on, at least a little).
if its lacking power i would start by doing a compression test, checking the plugs/cap/rotor and making sure they are still in good working order.
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Posted: September 10th, 2010, 11:05 am
by kcem
alright guys! it's quite a heavy rain outthere now so i will have to go and check the engine code later.
and fullybuilt2.0, you are quite right , it's just superrr dirty, how can i get rid of the grime and dirt? steamclean i've been told?
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Posted: September 10th, 2010, 11:24 am
by Dave_B
Simple Green does wonders as well.
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Posted: September 11th, 2010, 2:23 am
by kcem
bingo! it says B18C for the upper row and the number on the buttom row, so it's a ITR?
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Posted: September 11th, 2010, 8:58 am
by BannisteR
Heads can be swapped as well, but it looks to be like the original based on all the dirt and grime. Do JDM transmissions have the sticker with a bar code stating what trans it is as well, underneath the rad hoses close to where the clutch line is?
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Posted: September 11th, 2010, 11:18 am
by Dave_B
Yes, the JDM transmissions will also have an ink stamp on them. It's not the same as the USD JH4 LSD though. I think it's N3E or something like that.
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Posted: September 11th, 2010, 1:03 pm
by turbohf
i have a 97 JDM ITR trans. and i have to stare at it for like 2 mins to see the faint ink stamp that was once there... same goes for the green ink thing. cars get old and get washed. that shit just goes away.
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Posted: September 12th, 2010, 10:01 am
by kcem
I have been looking for it all over the place no no luck, maybe the paint has faded out ? or covered by the dirt? or i just over looked and missed it. if it's the case could someone indicate it from the photo i've taken around that area please

. thanks a lot guys!!!
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Posted: September 12th, 2010, 10:43 am
by Erik95LS
in your second photo look between the two blue hoses you can just make out the black ink where it says "LSD" That's the stamp and the other 3 letter stamp should be right there with it.